Subject: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:40:10 PM PST
Last modified date: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:40:10 PM PST
On one hand on the other hand, my hands come together in front of my chest, hands and palms pressed together with my fingers pointing upward, I bow “Namaste” Glendinning.
The split is merged, I’m correct on both counts. Her decision to mesh her rape with imperialism is a sure fire gimmick to sell those books, as evidenced by all the praise in the beginning of the book. But, it also acts as a red herring to soften the blow and slightly mask on what she is truly revealing, the New World Order as she plainly writes at the very beginning of the book on page 6. If the books don’t sell, she cannot reveal. “New imperialism” (Glendinning 151) and other like terms she uses throughout the book are code for New World Order. She obviously has a hatred of the New World Order, but why? “Is the good doctor” (Glendinning 62) a Freemason? “The lion is one of Freemasonry’s most powerful and potent symbols” (MasonicWorld.com). Glendinninng explicitly mentions lions numerous times stating, “We have a connection to these lions because our family has done business with the Criles” (Glendinning 62). Is this connection to lions a literal reference to stuffed lions or is she writing in code to those who know how to decipher?
This book is a treasure trove of revelations. I will need more time to extract them by reading the book several times and jotting down a lot more notes. I may not have the time to do this. I’ve got many other assignments to work on and there is so much in this book!
What Is Eco-feminism? According to Wikipedia it seems to involve a movement which believes there is much common ground between feminism and environmentalism.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:25:19 AM PST
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Wow. I was intrigued, and flipped back to page 62 to check it out. I don't know about Freemasons...but I was a little unsettled over the manner in which she vilifies Dr. Crile:
It is a compelling idea for research, this notion of comparing the brains and sympathetic nervous systems of African animals with those of humans. Do peculiarly human diseases spring not from biology per se, Crile wonders, but from civilization's demands on the human organism? Yet the mind that thinks up this project is ensconced in the trappings of the imperial mind.
Wooooow! Though it doesn't really matter (for me) one way or the other, it is interesting that she takes the time to issue scathing criticism from up on high to this man, as if she has reached some level of intellectual development that she didn't have as a child interacting with him. This is the only (male) family friend that she names in the entire text. Is this doctor one of her perpetrators? One of those whose name "she can still recite"? Is this her indirect way of identifying him? Look at the angle from which she attacks and identifies him- "ensconced in the trappings of the imperial mind."
I was interested, and she gives his name, so I googled him. Here's his New York Times obituary. I was even more shocked than I already was. If you read it you will understand why. Wow. Just wow.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:09:21 AM PST
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What is Glendinning's father's name? I can't seem to find it in the book. I've found Dr. George Crile's name in several Bonesman rosters online, keeping in mind the how unreliable this type of information can be.
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/bonesmembers.html
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: DAVID BROOKS
Posted date: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:31:37 PM PST
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Please keep us posted on this search. I am finding nothing for certain.
David
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:10:30 AM PST
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I can't find Glendinning's father in any search conclusively. I was shocked by your Bonesman find. Whoa. Did anyone read the obit on Crile? What I found so shocking was that he seemed to be a physician championing for women with breast cancer (holding the view that complete masteconomys (sp?) are unnecessary, long before it became conventional wisdom.
Do you think he was one of her abusers? WHy did she name him? There does seem to be a little code involved in that section (pg 62).
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:46:56 PM PST
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What I found interesting about Dr. Crile is his other research. If these sources are legitimate, it answers a few suspicions I’ve had about why all these years after the lunar landing we seem to be stuck on this planet. Why can’t we just jump into a starship and go on a 5-year mission? Why can’t we build those Mars colonies? This could validate the suspicions I’ve had why I believe we animals are slaves to plants.
This research is absolutely fascinating, but I don’t have time to deconstruct it right now. However, I’ll provide the link to some excerpts.
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/crile.htmI believe he could be one of her abusers. Many secretive cults keep control over their members by constantly having them prove their loyalty by forcing members to engage in despicable acts, hence Glendinning's anger towards imperialism and why she writes cryptically about it.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:11:46 AM PST
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Actually, the research you site was done by his father, Dr. George Crile, Sr., who founded the Cleveland Clinic. You can find him here.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 5:20:05 PM PST
Last modified date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 5:20:05 PM PST
Thanks. After I made the post, I found some discrepancies which made me think I might have gotten him confused with his father, but did not have time to confirm.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:47:15 PM PST
Last modified date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:47:15 PM PST
Another reason Glendinning writes in code and chose to mesh rape into her story is that she does not want to be labeled a conspiracy nut. During her trip through the Denver International Airport she writes, “I see something I have never seen in an American airport: two young men on the far escalator wearing jungle fatigues and black lace-up boots” (Glendinning 144). She then notices “a lone passenger clutching a nylon dress bag appears beside a kiosk like an alien” (Glendinning 145). Then she is told by the other travelers that “’Yeah, this is it.’ In a wink, the two men disappear down the escalator” (Glendinning 146).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_International_Airporthttp://www.westword.com/2007-08-30/news/dia-conspiracies-take-off/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60583/pg1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gsPersonally, I think this will be the busiest airport on the planet several months before an extinction level event hits the planet, like the Apophis asteroid. An underground base here would also be of high elevation and very far from the oceans. What better place to build a bunker? Of course we regular folks we be lied to, making sure the economy stays afloat long enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophishttp://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11207
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:24:58 AM PST
Last modified date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:24:58 AM PST
Darn it, I don't have the book with me right now; I remember that scene being odd, but c'mon, Ramon, abovetopsecret.com? I definitely believe that there are black budgets, and that the government does things that the population doesn't know about. The DIA stuff is interesting; I remember hearing reports about underground activity in Spokane when I was going to high school there in the nineties- there really could be something to it. If the government can build Hanford in a matter of months, in secret, which was the equivalent size and scope of 7 industrial plants, in the 1940's, I have no doubt that they can and do build huge secret facilities, even underground, for nefarious purposes. But that Schneider interview was totally unhinged; he jumps from subject to subject, giving no background information or support for some of his claims. He just sounds like a nutcase, to be honest. He's like the Richard Simmons of conspiracy theories, making no effort to meet someone on their level. He's running Mach 5 when I'm sitting in my chair. Conspiracy theories have a bad rap, and this guy, and these kinds of websites, are the reason.
I think you have picked up something in Glendinning's text that perhaps none of the rest of us has, though. I was totally intrigued by the Skull and Bones connection; perhaps Glendinning's metaphors go further than we first suspected.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 5:16:10 PM PST
Last modified date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 5:16:10 PM PST
Katherine, you missed the reason I posted that non-DIA link.
"The Dulce underground base in New Mexico" (AboveTopSecret.com).
"I buy a small house in a village in northern New Mexico" (Glendinning 89).
http://maps.google.com"We are, it turns out, the first generation of children singled out to think for the computer" (Glendinning 97).
What if she is still thinking for the computer? Could she be under some control by the academic-military-industrial complex and not realize it or be forced, this book being a cry for help?
I'm only 639 miles away from Dulce. If I interpret her clues correctly, I could find her. I've been searching for Level Seven for quite some time now. Or, maybe she's been converted and it's a trap for people like myself.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 7:15:21 PM PST
Last modified date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 7:15:21 PM PST
She lives in Chimayo, NM, somewhat close to Dulce, but I somehow doubt that she is trapped in some underground base. You are off-the-hook crazy!!! Don't take it wrong, I am too. I get accused of being a conspiracy theorist all the time. My sister sends me all these NWO videos, I'm online with my other English classmates at all hours over this stuff; if I hadn't been on a family vacation the 22nd, I would have been at an End The Fed protest. I have my food stockpiles and all that. I get it. I just think you're thrashing a bit, is all.
And, call me Kate- if you aren't cursing at your screen right now and thought up some other impolite name for me at this point
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Thursday, December 4, 2008 4:37:22 PM PST
Last modified date: Thursday, December 4, 2008 4:37:22 PM PST
Haha, I was having a bit too much caffeine. Caffeine is brainstorm medley for me. I don't have time to go looking for her. I've got to resurect my dead corporation. My contacts are in place, University of Arizona professors and Raytheon electrical engineers. I want to make money and advance the human race in the process. I'm just waiting to get distractions out of my way, like this degree.
I did not say she was trapped down there, just being used for tests. She was singled out rather young. They would probably like their test subjects living close.
I don't get offended much. If I see a train crash coming, I'm getting out of the way. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convice others while they ridicule me. Glendinning is sending a message to those who can decode it. I'll be rereading this book on my flight up to TriCities in a couple weeks. I've got unfinished business to take care of.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:38:45 AM PST
Last modified date: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:38:45 AM PST
I'm sorry if you think I was ridiculing you- it was actually sort of affectionate, as in, you're one of my peeps! lol. That's what I was trying to get across, but alas, once again the tone and inflection of my words is lost in this so imperfect medium............ Over Thanksgiving, I was visiting with a sister that lives in Holland, who has researched Queen Beatrix and the Bilderberg group that originated there, quite extensively. Our other sister sat in a corner and scowled at us for "wasting our intellect" on "Stupid conspiracy theories that hold no water"; arguing with her is useless, she's a law student and good at running circles around you, dipping and diving when you prove her wrong, and buzzing like a mad hornet if you actually make her think more than she wants to about things that tend to scare the living dog doo out of her. She hates that.
You should email me when you get here. I'd love to meet you and have coffee if you have a spare hour. It's cool sometimes to meet students from online classes that you've been talking to all semester without having a face to the name. That goes for everyone
katiespe@gmail.com
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Friday, December 5, 2008 6:41:16 PM PST
Last modified date: Friday, December 5, 2008 6:41:16 PM PST
No, actually I did not take it the wrong way. When I meant 'others,' I meant other people in general. I think you Kate, misunderstood my written tone and inflection.
I get ridiculed by partisans when I suggest Democrats and Republicans have worked out a back room deal for each party to get 8 years then switching back and forth. The parties divide and conquer the people. I find it funny to hear partisan puppets bicker with each other, playing right into their party's hands of control. The parties might differ as to plan lengths and details, but they are both taking us in the same direction, creeping socialism at the hands of BOTH.
Sure, let's have a get together. I'm flying in on the 25th, but I'll have more free time closer to the end of the month. Does everyone know the Starbuck's in Pasco on Rd. 68?
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Monday, December 8, 2008 11:37:32 AM PST
Last modified date: Monday, December 8, 2008 11:37:32 AM PST
Yep, and my family lives out that way, so I'll be out there a lot around Christmas anyway
Give me a time and day, and I'll be there- I'm not working over the break.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: RAMON GARCIA
Posted date: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:46:11 AM PST
Last modified date: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:46:11 AM PST
How about the evening on Sunday the 28th around 6pm? My schedule is very flexible, just wanted to throw something out there.
Subject: RE: I smell a couple red herrings
Author: Katherine Spears
Posted date: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:52:34 AM PST
Last modified date: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:52:34 AM PST
Sure, if it's open....is it open that late on a Sunday? If it is, I'll show up
Otherwise, email me at
katiespe@gmail.com. PEACE
